Thursday, September 15, 2005


For his book that is printed by Xlibris. Rip Rense a longtime music reviewer has fallen into the vanity press pit because of agent rejection of his concept. Sometimes your angle just isn't saleable. You have consider that possibility at the very least. What a shame when seasoned media journalists fall into this trap.


Blogger Rip Rense said...

Dear Mark Andrew York (all three of you)---Thanks for the links to my website and press club award. First off, I am NOT Robert Hilburn. Where you got this idea, I really can't imagine, but it wasn't from me or Hilburn. For the record, I am not enamored of the man or his writing, and I suspect he feels the same about me. You're right, Mark, "sometimes your angle isn't saleable." That was the case with my novel. No sweat. So what did I do? I self-published. This is a trap? You contradict yourself. If your book is not "saleable," why is self-publication a "trap?" And what moved you to take a swipe at me and my decision, when you don't know me, haven't met me, and undoubtedly have not read my book? Why am I so important as to merit denunciation on your blog? Weird. I see you have written about some "environmental heroes." Perhaps you will enjoy Eric Enno Tam's new book about Ed Ricketts, "Beyond Pacific Tides," or have already read it. Regards,
Rip ("seasoned" journalist.)

4:07 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Well Rip that's my bad detective work showing up I guess. Vanity presses are a trap becuse once there any book is dead no matter the merit. Xlibris is the worst in my view. I did this twice as an experiment and it failed as it always does.

The goal of vanity publication is commercial publication. Damn few get there on this road. That's the message. Your book is DOA. That's all I meant. Thanks for the tip.

4:55 PM  
Blogger Rense Rip said...

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the response. No offense intended, but it would not have taken much "detective work" to realize that I am not Robert Hilburn. Next time, please confuse me with personage more to my liking, will you? As for my book being DOA (that goes nicely with the old "R.I.P" saw at the top of your item), I agree! I deliberately consigned my book to the vanity press Xlibris boneyard! It was either that or a desk drawer, and I thought the book might like to get a tan. Now, why that should offend you at all is beyond me, and why it should offend you to the point of having to deride me---a total stranger---on your website, I do not grasp. It is, at the very least, not terribly polite. But that's okay, as courtesy is largely DOA these days, too. I don't need a lecture from you or anyone about the futility of self-flag---er, publication. I was aware of it when I paid for it. Now please, go and pick on somebody else, will you? How about Hilburn? And read that Ricketts book.


5:31 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Look Rip no one is skewering you. It's Xlibris that's taking the hit not you. It also shows how brutal the publishing industry is when a journalist has to be relegated to this boneyard. Hilburn was a mistake; A guess from the list of candidates. I don't know who the hell you are.

I'll into your suggestion. Thanks.

6:29 PM  
Blogger Rense Rip said...

Note to readers: in Mark's original item, before he corrected it, he had referred to me as "Rip Rense, AKA Robert Hilburn." Hence the subsequent reference to Hilburn in my replies. Mark notes he "doesn't know who the hell I am," yet for some reason was compelled to assume I am not who I represent myself to be, and perhaps moonlighted as Robert Hilburn (a "guess from a list of candidates.") Mark, you're right. I admit it. I'm actually Oprah Winfrey.


11:28 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

Look I wished I would have guessed more wisely and chosen someone more to your liking. This journalist corrects mistakes when new information comes in.

6:02 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

Sorry Glenn.

9:50 PM  

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